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  Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

  the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

  defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

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  Jay Elle

  Oh my coffee just starting tasting even sweeter.  How long will it take before we know the end of this drama? 
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  Is shunning a common religious punishment for reporting sexual abuse (or other crimes)?

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in other words, is it true that the watchtower is just like other religions when it comes to cover-ups?.

  from personal experience (with incest and doctrinal/financial fraud) in the watchtower i would say so.. especially when i compare stories like the one i read today:.

  "its impossible to know how many women have been raped by jewish men.

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  Jay Elle

  I have many friends with unreported stories.  Too many.  People hide behind the Bible/power in every religion.

  i never thought we would be watching Bill Cosby turn into a creep...but look where we are.

  as far as the WT covering up....  Yes.  There was a cover up in my hall.  When the moms found out about it...the moms were trampled by the elders.  The elders were furious we were talking about it. I was publicly reproved after I was forced to apologize to the pervert or be dfd. The elders also wanted names of all the moms talking. I refused to give the names so they hung me from the rafters.  The level of ugliness they heaped on my family was very long and very painful.

  guess what? The pervert reoffended. Instead of apologizing to our family, Bethel and the elder body became even more vengeful that we were right to be concerned for our kids all staying the night, without warning at this perverts house. So the elders had a marking talk ....about us.  Not the pervert....us.  Why?  To keep people from reaching out to us after we were right that the pervert couldn't stop and our concern for our kids and others was valid.

  oh and what happened to the teen girl the Servant offended.....well they dfd her. 

  
  
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  Dylan Boe - another dead miserable wretch

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  victim hung on to faith .

  by mike o'brien.

  dylan boe held on to his faith until the end.. the 19-year-old was the only one of four young friends who wasn't immediately killed in a two-vehicle crash near melville, saturday.. like preston presiloski, adam anderson and elisha stasiuk, boe was a jehovah's witness.

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  Jay Elle

  Well while I was in we looked this list over.  There was no koolaid requirement ...

  https://www.google.com/search?q=cult+check+list&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
  
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  Sam Herd to speak at Orangeburg, SC assemblies Jan. 17-18

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just heard a fairly reliable rumor that sam herd will be the "guest bethel speaker" at the circuit assemblies at the orangeburg sc assembly hall on january 17-18. .

  orangeburg is about halfway between columbia & charleston, assembly hall is right off i-26.. just in case any of y'all want to be enlightened.

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  Jay Elle

  I can't even hear that mans name without hearing that terrible talk he gave about women.

  i wonder what his wife is like.
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  Is the WTS now a goat

  by coalize in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i was looking at the archive of the books of the wts, and when i fall on the cover of this book of 1933, i can't empeach me to think, when i saw the nman in black, to think at the today's wts!.

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  Looks like aliestar Crowley crawled through the fields with his billy club.
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  Experience in a talk

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week we had an elder giving a talk, cant remember the title.. the thing that was of interest is the experience he gave:.

  "a brother who was working in a hospital had to leave his job which was paying him good money because the nurses wanted to sleep with him and they kept putting notes for him on his desk!".

  this is not the first time i hear similar experience.

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  Was that "hospital" really a low budget porn project?  
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  Is the Watchtower Shifting All Financial and Legal Risk to Local Elders, are they 100% liable for Negligence?

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the watchtower organization leaving behind for all the kingdom halls after their done siphoning them dry?

  who is going to pay for a lawsuit or damages when some incompetent elders or three are busted for something very bad?

  will the watchtower help or leave them alone for the sharks to shred to pieces?

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  I know the Catholic Church also tried the tactic of not being responsible for the satellite churches they owned.  It did not work.  Unless headquarters gives a real directive to let the police handle all crimes they will be liable for all the inbetween red tape their internal rules create.

  they need to do this.

  1: tell the congregation that any crimes confessed to them will be reported to the police.

  2: background checks will be mandatory for anyone with any title. 
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  New song 136

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this week's service meeting, the whole 30 minutes, is devoted to the "new songs" foisted upon jws.. note this from paragraph 8 of the km article that is to be considered:.

  we will conclude our meeting today with the new song entitled the kingdom is in placelet it come!

  this song, which was featured at the recent annual meeting, was specially composed to mark the 100th anniversary of the birth of the kingdom.. .

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  Judge rutherford is rolling in his grave that music was brought back to the Kingdom Halls.  
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  New awake up on jw.org about suicide

  by hoser in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they have printed a series of articles about suicide.

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  I feel very sorry for anyone so desperate to end pain they want to take thier life.

  It is really interesting that Sampson was allowed to commit suicide and was still in jehovahs favor. He was in great pain.

  I am not advocating suicide just pointing out that it is not a sin...it is a tragedy.
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  Is this talk given by Samuel Herd

  by Jay Elle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this particular video has humor added in, but there is an audio with just the talk.

  is it really samuel herd?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv6bn0rcjzc.

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  Jay Elle

  Thank you for verifying. I guess I can only add to the mix with this new updated version.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6Bn0rcjZc